[Lloopp] lloopp/max/jitter issue

[Tommy Birchett]

ok, i did additional testing and got more detailed information...

1.

 If you only have the MaxMSP Runtime 4.6 you will get the following
error if you try to install Jitter:

"you cannot install jitter16 on this volume. maxmsp 4.6 or greater is
required to use this version of jitter"

I discovered chaning the name of the folder from "MaxMSP Runtime 4.6"
to "Max MSP 4.6" eliminates this problem.

2.

I have also discovered that the problem I described before with lloopp
not responding to attempts to initiate acts or environments on the
first launch is related to Jitter...

What I found is if I restart my mac and open lloopp_ho_st.pat it
starts MaxMSP Runtime and Jitter16. Once lloopp host is available and
everything looks ready the lloopp host will not respond to any
attempts to open an act or environment. Quitting lloopp/MaxMSP Runtime
and launching lloopp_ho_st.pat again works everytime as long as my mac
stays up and running. Even logging out of my account and back in does
not cause any problems. The problem resurfaces the next time I run
lloopp only after a complete restart of the computer.

As an experiment I restarted and then opened MAXMSP Runtime and
initiated Jitter without actually opening lloopp. Once I was sure Max
and Jitter were up and running I started lloopp and I did not
encounter the problem.

The problem is definitely related to Jitter and I believe that the
maybe the Jitter initiation that occurs the first time you launch
lloopp is causing the problem.

Anyway, it is easy enough to work around, but I wanted to make sure it
was reported.

I hope this information is helpful to someone. Thanks for everything!

Tommy


On 9/26/07, o. blaat <oblaten at gmail.com> wrote:
> hello::
> i have tested 1.5 w/ both runtime and full install.
> runtime behaves exactly the same as others claimed.
> second time was fine. (i'm running osx 10.4.9, max/msp 4.6.3, jitter 1.6.3,
> on non-intel machine.)
>  it happens even though i'd launch runtime first and open ho_st from within.
> i'd need to do it second time around to let it work.
>
> 1.5 update also fixed all the problems i had with 1.4 - namely with all jit
> acts.
> thanxx to klaus! (i only didn't understand if gl host is not at all
> interacting with any other jit acts. but i haven't spent enough time with
> the gl acts yet. maybe i can find something inside the sub-patches.)
>
>
> more report later.
> keiko
>
>
> On 9/26/07, Clemens Hausch <clemens.hausch at gmx.at> wrote:
> > hi there,
> > i have exactly the same problem, though i have a full official license of
> max- i didn't bother with it since it works flawless after the 2nd start of
> max- i have an idea though - if i ddo the "close all" command in ho_st
> before quitting max it seems to me that the next start of lloopp works fine-
> it worked some times like this, but not always, so i'm not 100% sure about
> this.
> > cheers, clemens
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:39:23 -0400
> > > Von: "Tommy Birchett" < tommybirchett at gmail.com >
> > > An: lloopp at klingt.org
> > > Betreff: [Lloopp] lloopp/max/jitter issue
> >
> > > Here is a problem I have run into:
> > >
> > > I had Max runtime only installed and wanted to use the Jitter
> > > functions in lloopp, but the current version of Jitter will not
> > > install unless I have the full version of max installed. So I
> > > downloaded the demo and installed it in order to get jitter installed
> > > and working. Since I do not havea license for the full version of max
> > > i set lloopp-ho_st.pat to max runtime and applied that change to all.
> > >
> > > I now have everything working except I have found that the first time
> > > I open lloopp after booting my mac i cannot get the host to open
> > > anything. If I quit max runtime and open lloop again it works fine. I
> > > have installed and tested this on another machine and I get the same
> > > results.
> > >
> > > I have tested on 3 different macbook pro computers.
> > >
> > > it's not a huge problem since i can just start lloop twice to get it
> > > working, but just wanted to alert you and see if anyone else has seen
> > > this or if anyone has any thoughts or ideas about what is going on.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tommy Birchett
> > > www.broadcastatic.org/tommy
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