[Lloopp] pocket dial

Wed Jun 27 22:45:42 CEST 2007

Sorry did not include the environment, here it is...

All the best

Alessandro Fogar

2007/6/27, Alessandro Fogar <sfogar at gmail.com>:
> Klaus,
>
> I tried control@ with my Pocket Dial and it works great !
>
> But now, please forgive me, I have a big problem...
>
> In the meantime I upgraded to Max/Msp 4.6.3 and now my environments
> does not load correctly !
>
> I include and Envornment where I did choose 2 flop and 2 hardplay,
> only one of each type is loaded...
>
> Please help !
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> Alessandro Fogar
>
>
>
> 2007/6/27, Alessandro Fogar <sfogar at gmail.com>:
> > Hi Klaus,
> >
> > for me it does not work, when I add it to an exesting act it does not
> > open and the following error appears:
> >
> > • error: pattrstorage: error reading file at byte offset 0 / syntax error
> > • error: pattrmarker: name no already in use
> >
> > More later...
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Alessandro Fogar
> >
> > 2007/6/27, klaus filip <klaus at klingt.org>:
> > > hi allesandro (and all)
> > > ok so here is a try:
> > > http://lloopp.klingt.org/plone/lloopp/uploads/controlAT.zip/view
> > >
> > > i rethought the issue of acceleration. its obviously a timing thing.
> > > the faster you turn the know, you want the given incdec-value to be
> > > multiplied.
> > > please think of the knob-turning-interval (KTI) as time in ms mesured
> > > between the incoming ticks.
> > > (especially with the doepfer-dial, you can feel these ticks (one of
> > > the reasons, why i don't like it)).
> > > the accel-parameter is a factor to the incdec-parameter. a factor of
> > > 10 means eg. incdec*10.
> > > this applied factor is scaled from 1.00 (at KTI>= accTsh, slow
> > > turning) to the given value (accel)
> > > at the theoretically KTI of 0ms (very very fast turning).
> > >
> > > example:
> > > incdec: 0.01, accel: 8.00, accTsh: 300
> > >
> > > if you move slow (tick-interval bigger than 300ms) no acceleration is
> > > applied (factor 1.0)
> > > if you turn faster this accel-factor will increase. lets say you turn
> > > with 150ms interval for each tick,
> > > (half way between 300ms and 0ms) then the factor will be 4.00.
> > > meaning each tick will increase the parameter-value with 0.04
> > > (incdec*accel[@ms]
> > >
> > > hmm, its difficult to describe here, please test and tell me if this
> > > approach makes sense.
> > >
> > > best
> > > klaus
> > >
> > > On Jun 27, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Alessandro Fogar wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Klaus,
> > > >
> > > > yes, I am very interested in that feature, you know otherways the
> > > > Pocket Dial is almost useless...
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that I have a performance together with Antonio Della
> > > > Marina this saturday and I liked to use the Pocket Dial.
> > > >
> > > > But if you cannot do it, please show me what I have to change and
> > > > I'll try...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > All the best
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alessandro Fogar
> > > >
> > > > http://www.fogar.it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2007/6/27, klaus filip <klaus at klingt.org>:
> > > >> hi alessandro,
> > > >> well the accel should speed things up if you turn the knob faster,
> > > >> but i just look inside this mode, and it seems that it does not do
> > > >> anything at the
> > > >> moment - so sorry, i will look at it, if you are interested in that
> > > >> feature...
> > > >>
> > > >> all the best
> > > >> klaus
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jun 25, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Alessandro Fogar wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Klaus,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> how are you ?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I can confirm that it works.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have a question: how does the 'accel' parameter works ?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> All the best
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Alessandro Fogar
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2007/6/22, klaus filip <klaus at klingt.org>:
> > > >>>> hi robert,
> > > >>>> well doepfers dial is a special case, it has endless knobs and
> > > >>>> outputs that in a pretty unique way...
> > > >>>> anyway, i did a quick addition on control@:
> > > >>>> http://lloopp.klingt.org/plone/lloopp/uploads/control_dial.zip/view
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> it has "dial" now in the input-menu (the one with midi, osc,
> > > >>>> phidget,
> > > >>>> etc...)
> > > >>>> if you choose that you should get one line for each knob in the
> > > >>>> routing-window.
> > > >>>> (the dopefer-dial needs to be in a special mode, dip-switch is
> > > >>>> 00011010 here.)
> > > >>>> then you have to use the rel64-mode when routing to parameters.
> > > >>>> please tell me if this works for you
> > > >>>> best
> > > >>>> klaus
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Jun 20, 2007, at 10:12 PM, robert piotrowicz wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> hallo
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I was asking about this befor
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> would be kind if you can drop me a line
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Is somebody uses pocket dial (Doepfer midi controller)
> > > >>>>> with newer versions of loop?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> please let me know
> > > >>>>> thanks a lot
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> robert
> > > >>>>>
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> > --
> > Alessandro Fogar
> >
> > http://www.fogar.it
> >
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>
> --
> Alessandro Fogar
>
> http://www.fogar.it
>

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Alessandro Fogar

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